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iSymphonic Orchestra - Sounds Demo

Reader Toz Bourne has helpfully provided the sound demo iSymphonic Orchestra so desperately needed! Here are all 10 of the sounds included in the app. Thank you so much, Toz! He hints that a second video will be forthcoming to offer his opinions on the functionality of the app.

Buy iSymphonic Orchestra on iTunes: $54.99

Reader Comments 24

Seems promising...but much too expensive. I you guys agree to pay so much this time, then for sure the average price of the apps will increase. Well, it's the offer and demand rule but I'm sure that we can keep the prices low and give opportunities to everyone to produce good music...I'm ready to pay 20$ for this. What about you?

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Cuscolima

Probably would be a good idea for the dev to create a "free" version, or at least drop the price and let some of the variations be IAP's...?

August 11, 2014  | person_outline mataband

Yup, they are boosting the pricing model with this one. They won't sell many units at that price, and there are tons of bugs reported early, as well as a dev grudge against Audiobus, which is childish and alienating to most folks working in iOS production. Sounds great, but I am not buying until Dev gets his head out the clouds. Until then, I am quite happy with what I hear in Thumbjam, and Mellotron M3000. 20 bucks, I am in...not until.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Chris Catalano

I hate to be too critical as I know what a very difficult job it is creating sample sets. However, this set really does not sound good to me. This really needed to go through a much more careful planning stage (prior to recording the strings players) and beta stage (if it was beta tested, it might have focused on technical details on not musical applications). In the beta stage, someone who knows how to use it could have created some better demo material (e.g., without clipping, better playing, etc.). Those slow attacks are nice for long pads, but are impossible if you want to do a melodic line.

The price tag might reflect the expense of hiring players, long sessions, and tedious edit. It might have been wiser to try to license samples from other developers and focus on the front end software.

Too bad. I wanted to like this, but this does NOT sound ready for prime time.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline stub

Toz, -- SO SORRY, didn't mean to diss your playing-- and I really appreciate your creating that demo. It was very helpful for us to hear the app! I just wasn't completely awake and was in "blunt mode".

I really just meant that the developer could have highlighted all those sounds with real compositions that were more carefully sequenced.

Humblest apologies.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline stub

Well. I'm not very convinced by these sound examples. For a better representation of string voicing, these should at least be played with wider intervals between the voices. String orchestras seldom play that close together in harmony because it muddies everything up.

That said, I'm not hearing this producing quality string sounds regardless of voicing. To me the strings in GarageBand for IOS sound cleaner and stronger. Additionally the GB strings offer nice playability with easy access to multiple playing techniques (pizz, legato, staccato). The Miroslav sounds in Sampletank are also very nice although a bit more difficult for performance of multiple techniques since articulations are set up in different patches.

I would even recommend using Notion since it also has such high-quality notation although there are definitely issues with using Notion audio output in an all-iOS production process (ie would be great to have midi sync and Audiobus support).

Anyway, I'm not even sure how realistic it is to think we could get anything more than barely passable on an iOS device considereing most orchestral libraries tax the processing of full desktops and high-end laptops.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Graham

Is this just a really expensive midi player???

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Yur2die4

Buy any app that plays sf2, grab Sonatina Symphonic Orchestra for free on the web and save $50 and 100 mb of space.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Mikel

Music Studio has the Sonatina Symphonic Orchestra samples baked in as well.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Bianca

Howdy...yea I just threw that together (though it took a while to do). I thought it was important enough to get a sample out to the community.

On my studio monitors most of sounds are really sweet. I use Music Studio and loved the instrument upgrade last year, but really this is well beyond those sounds, Yes there are some issues.

I have too much going on as usual in life, so I didn't finish the walkthrough video where I explain how crappy I am at playing this thing and have several other lame excuses. I hope to have a vid up by tomorrow morning (usa central time).

I really considered not posting the sound demo but I felt like it was a good opportunity to give back, at least somewhat, to the iOS music community that has given so much to me over the last three or so years.

Cheers,
Toz Bourne

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Toz Bourne

@Toz Bourne thanks for taking the time to do this - I am really tempted by this app and I think it's great that someone (you) stepped up and did this. Well done.

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Trueyorky

I take back my statements. They were just reactionary and ungrounded in fact.

What I actually heard in the videos sounded very good (including the playing, by the way, but I am not a violinist, but what I heard sounded very fine in that department, too), and of course it would be a nice app to have. I cannot afford it right now, so I selfishly went on about shit I know nothing about. Right now is not the time, but I am pretty sure that in the future I will probably be able to use the obvious attention to realism and detail that has gone into this.

Good luck with the app, and my apologies for being a shit in my comments...

August 11, 2014  | person_outline Chris Catalano

Very interesting to hear this!

Thank you Toz for taking the time to put the video together.

August 12, 2014  | person_outline Simon

Thanks for doing a demo. I could see how some of these sounds could be made to sound good with a decent reverb but some of sounds seem past saving (eg those pizzicatos at end). Was hopeful re this app but not impressed by the dry sounds.

August 12, 2014  | person_outline Stuart

At some point, someone MUST have said "would it be better to sell 1 at 50, or 5 at 10?" And someone else thought the former was what reflected their estimation of their creation's value. So: since the sounds are not THAT good, and they sent it out unfinished,, one wonders if they are perhaps a bit, you know, up themselves. Sorry developers, at that price you are never going to become as rich as you clearly believe you deserve; and when you decide to drop the price by 50 to 80%, people who bought it before will hate you. Too late. You blew it. Next!

August 12, 2014  | person_outline The other Brian

Got CMP Grand when it first came out, had a terrible interface, bad latency and too much resonance....spent a lot and never used anymore that app.
They'll never get a penny anymore from me.

August 12, 2014  | person_outline Metallo

The iPad music app development takes me back to 15 or 20 years before when computers didn't have a lot of memories. All string and brass orchestra sounded like shit. To me, what I hear with iSymphonic is just as bad at that time or to compare with another app, it doesn't sound better than SampleTank for iPad, and it's only $20. We will never be able to get a great sound of real acoustic instruments until we get 1T of RAM on iPad.

So... $50... it's a real steal. Sorry!

August 12, 2014  | person_outline zzz...

Hmmmm i wonder if that is another example of 2 countries separated by a common language.

On this side of the pond a real steal is a a bargain........

August 12, 2014  | person_outline Bianca

Yes Bianca, you're right, we use the same expression here but I'm french speaking so, I forgot the double meaning ... I did write steal in the sense of ... Way Too Much Expensive ...!

August 12, 2014  | person_outline zzz...

One last follow-up if anyone is still paying attention to this...Videos are time consuming and not as easy to make as they would seem. So I dropped back and do what I do best (better)...I've posted a bit of an app walk through on wtomusic.com -- which also contains some links to some short SoundCloud demos I put up...including one from Music Studio for a bit of comparison (though not the same orchestration nor the same chords, etc).

These were uploaded from wav files as recorded in Auria (except music studio--direct extract wave file from there). They should provide a better idea of the sounds than via YouTube upload.

My Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/tozbourne

August 12, 2014  | person_outline Toz Bourne

Great work Toz - I love your slow strings demo.

August 13, 2014  | person_outline Trueyorky

How, exactly, are these sounds being made? I see nothing in the video that shows the capability for manipulation of instruments. My response to this program is that (a) it's over the top pricing and (b) probably bogus, as the makers seem shy about showing us the "reasons" we might want it.

August 16, 2014  | person_outline Alan Napier

Maybe when you use "bogus" you aren't meaning to assign malicious intent. I don't think there is any.

It is quite likely that this developer will lose money on this project-- sampling instruments like that is time-consuming and costly. So I don't begrudge them charging whatever they want for it.

Seems like we might have a very good programmer who is not experienced with sampling, and terrible with marketing/advertising. As I mentioned above, there are signs of poor or no planning with the sampling part of the process. Since the software was released at a high price without any demo or informational video/audio, we can guess there was no planning there either.

August 16, 2014  | person_outline stub

Maybe not so terrible with marketing judging by the number of column inches it's generating.

August 17, 2014  | person_outline Bianca
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