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iPad Pro Released

The iPad Pro is officially launching today! While many readers here have the disposable income to buy Apple's shiny new toys with reckless abandon, the iPad Pro comes at price that I think will give many people some pause. If you live in an area that charges Sales Tax, or VAT, you're going to need to cough up over $1,200 to walk out the door of your local Apple store today with an iPad Pro (128GB) and its keyboard Smart Cover. Add an additional $100 to that if you want the stylus.

The Verge did a well balanced review of the new iDevice. They confirmed my concerns about the awkward weight and heft of the larger device, but overall came out felling positive on the supersized tablet. It certainly looks like a powerful platform if you intend for it to stay in one place.

I personally replaced my car's tires instead, but I'm interested in hearing from people who are going to be buying the new monolith. Will a lot of readers here be ponying up for it? Please let me know in the comments!

Reader Comments 40

Small-Big disappointment: A9x is only a Dual Core CPU :-)

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Benis67

Ordered mine today. Delivery estimated between 12/5 and 12/11.
1200€ wifi 128gb and the stylus.
Motivations: use two apps with the split screen. For example a synth and an FX app (hope a lot of music apps will implement split screen in coming updates).
A little bit bored sometime of using 2 ipads with the iconnect audio 4+ ( one iPad w/ synth and another with mods and fx using audio passthrough).
In conclusion a big ipad will be lighter than two ipads in my backpack.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Matt

For a couple hundred less I ponied up for Surface Pro 3 instead. i7, quad core, 256g, runs touch Bitwig, MultitrackStudio, Stagelight, Omnishere 2, Diva, Serum, Falcon...

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Littlewoodg

until they make apps that take full advantage, id rather a surface for that money

November 11, 2015  | person_outline RubenDari

I use graphic (drawing, painting) as well as music apps extensively. The additional space will be huge for me. I use the iPad at home only, so additional weight/size isn't a concern. It seems to me that anyone who uses an iPad almost every day for graphic and musical projects would want a Pro.
I would gladly contribute to a Let's-Buy-Tim-an-iPad Pro campaign! Seriously!

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Jared

@jared @tim I'm not buying one for the time being, but i can join the campaign to offer Tim a MaxiPad for xmas. If each one gives around $10, we only need to be 120 people. Who's with us?

November 11, 2015  | person_outline klx

I'm waiting this one out - I already have an iPad Air that barely gets any use at all other than to host various virtual synths for Logic. The truth is that I'd much rather have had an A9 equipped iPad mini as I use my mini 2 daily, and the mini is not getting much love from Apple.

On the bright side, as long as I can still put up with my mini 2 only having 32GB of storage, I'm good to go for another year with it, thus saving money for the mini 5.

The problem for me with working on iPads is that the touch screen does not offer the accuracy of a mouse or trackpad input method. I really like Cubasis, but fuck me, the touch interface of the iPad makes me want to tear out what little there is left of my hair when using it. Gadget is better, but still clunky compared to mouse or trackpad input. I've tried those capacitive pens, and they're OK, but still lacking accuracy.

That said if there's a killer app for the pro that fits my usage I might just be tempted

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Slaphead

@klx I m in!

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Matt

Klx, Jared, who would be able to open a crowdfunding campaign for Tim 'pony pony' Webb?

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Matt

I'll get an iPad when you don't have to resort to a Jailbreak type
work-around to have access to third party applications.
If i want to play Monopoly, I'll buy the board game.
It's less expensive...

November 11, 2015  | person_outline LaRue-Tachi

i got one ordered today, ships in 5 days from my ATT premier account. $50 a month is cool for me, plus the early geek bench numbers are very impressive especially the graphics which i'll be using much more than the audio centric stuff.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline hogo

I will be waiting for three or four months, just to get a solid idea of its strengths and weaknesses, and if it goes well, I'm going to get one. Like Jared, I'm doing it mostly for the drawing and painting plus photo/videography apps, and I guarantee I'm going to appreciate the real estate in my music apps, many of which have already put out updates for the increase in real estate. No text keyboard. Stylus absolutely.

I don't really care about extra weight and such. I used to carry my laptop with me—hell, I used to carry a shit-ton more gear than that—so the big iPad is not going to be some horrible burden. I wouldn't switch to another tablet myself at this point. I try others out at store displays and I'm not tempted by them for numurous reasons: Lots of crashing, errors, configuration issues, and NO ProCreate (I've used every painting app made for Apple and Windows. Nothing works better for me, and it is the app I use to make most of my income these days, so that's big for me). A substantial portion of my studio hardware wouldn't work with non-apple devices anyway.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline ZenLizard

I will wait for v2.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline detect

Also waiting for v2 here. A bit underwhelmed by the first incarnation of the Pro.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline JoeMaron

When the iPad Pro was announced Tim did a good job ripping on the lack of professional features. But, like some other posters above, I'm currently using two iPads, so maybe this could make it all easier. The bottom line, though, is that my wife tells me I don't need another computer. I don't want one enough to change her mind--pick your battles.

I would like to join in the crowd funding effort to get Tim his own "MaxiPad." I could definitely contribute $10. I think we would all benefit if he had one for his testing. As a worst case scenario, we would all get a kick out of having him rip on it some more.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Benjamin Ford

If they offered me a good trade-in price for my Newton Message Pad I might consider one. Otherwise, no way.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline a1

I am waiting this one out. If it had more than 2 cores and 256GB, it would have been a done deal. 4:3 for video is also a deal killer. You can almost buy a pair or Air 2s for that and be in better shape.

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Brian Brylow

I'd put in $10 for Tim's MaxiPad ;-)

November 11, 2015  | person_outline mikefreq

Hmmm, seems like there is actually some support for crowdfunding an iPad Pro for Tim! I've never done this before, but I'm willing to get it rolling. I don't know how we can reach out to the general readership without leaving messages on this blog, which might be awkward for Tim.
Any ideas how to make this work?

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Jared

$10 more for the Tim-Maxi-Pad!!!

November 11, 2015  | person_outline Zenzilla

OK, a Fundly.com page is up and awaiting your contributions that will be used to help buy an iPad Pro for Tim. Let's make this happen!

https://fundly.com/fans-of-music-app-maestro-tim-webb

[Tim Edit: I'm humbled by this show of support, but it is really not necessary. Thank you very much to everyone that has contributed, but please don't! See my comment here.]

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Jared

@Littlewoodg, Good call. It's nice that you get MultiTrack Studio working on that. Congrats.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline stub

I'm in for the donate @klx

November 12, 2015  | person_outline XxxYyyZzz

Apple is increasing prices more and more, while quality is becoming less. If you are rich and can afford it, ok. But for the majority of musicians, the question is actually: Why would you need that thing? Most touch screen musicians (I don't like the term iOS musician) are anyhow getting lost in shopping. And maybe it's ok for them, cause they just wanna have some fun. But I wanna do music. And my iPhone 4s is by far enough for that. 2 weeks ago, I've purchased my first iPad, an iPad 2! I don't need more atm, am busy with track making a lot.

Actually, I'm much much more interested in the development on Windows 10 (and 8), connected with Bitwig. You don't even need an expensive Surface tablet for it as it seems, a convertible or another cheaper tablet is enough. And on Windows, you can reinstall the OS OF YOUR CHOICE as often as you want (afaik). That brings production stability, which is a huge problem on iOS (the solution on iOS for production stability that I have is actually having at least 2 devices on the same iOS version at the same time, but that's not really satisfying, especially when you wanna use them on stage and your equipment could get damaged or stolen). And you can use all the Windows Plugins existing. But still some time for development I guess, we need e.g. more touch instruments/interfaces on Windows. And I don't know how well you can tweak plugins in tablet mode atm.

Actually I think in the meantime that iOS will never get a stable platform for music making. Wrong politics, and Apple won't change that.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Juergen Nehrlich

I didn't realize it was released today, but happened to walk into an Apple store this afternoon on a whim and there it was. Once in my hands, it didn't wow me. It didn't feel like a big enough step up in size. My Ipad Air is fine enough for now. I'll wait for the 17 inch Pro...version 3 perhaps, unless one of the Win10 DAWs finds a way to enable multi-touch control of a VST GUI. That pretty much would spell the end of iOS music apps for me.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline gary

Wow.... So I've been playing Fallout 4 all afternoon and didn't realize what was going on here.

I'm super flattered to see you all trying to chip in for me, but please don't do this. The reason I didn't get an iPad Pro is because I don't want one... I'm really more of a tampon guy.

Seriously though... Thank you so much to everyone involved in this, I'm genuinely floored by the show of support. I'm flooded with all the feels right now. But please spend your money on stuff you want, instead of stuff I don't want. If you really want to throw money at me I'll direct you to my Patreon page where I will earn your money through Let's Plays.... when I finish Fallout 4. ;)

Re: Campaign for Tim's MaxiPad—We're already at 10 % of our $1300 goal!

Actually, that's not quite true. After XxxYyyZzz, Zenzilla, Matt, Mikefreq, and Klx submit their $10 pledges, we will be at 14%!
If any of you are in contact with other Discchord lovers, please let them know about the campaign.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Jared

If Tim doesn't want one, maybe you should send one to Doug Woods or Haq.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline RTW

This is not an iPad Air 2 killer. No reason to upgrade...move along...

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Psysword

its not PRO for me, so long i cant:

Use the 64GB+ Memory like i want,
copy just MY!!! music from&to the device&friends i want (NO Evil iTunes)
if i could just plugin my keyboard, mouse, HDD, Printer&Scanner in a STANDARD USB PORT without the workaround with adapters, and use these like I want & need.

okay i think i will never bought a PRO Apple Product, LoL

November 12, 2015  | person_outline DGS

@Jared You rock! Very easy to give through funding.com!
C'mon everybody, for now 5 donnors and $145 reached!

Tim seems kinda reluctant but a good blogger needs to put hands on new technology to tell the world 😎
Maxipad will give Tim motivation to do more Patreons videos and fuzzy wiring with all his gear 😁

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Matt

The Buy-Little-Timmy-Webb-a-MaxiPad-for-Christmas campaign has ended almost before it began.
At Tim's request—and after checking in with him—I'm closing the Fundly page and arranging for refunds for those who've already donated. It appears to be a very easy process, so I think donations will be returned very shortly.
I briefly considered continuing and renaming the campaign "What-have-you-done-for-Jared-lately?," but something tells me that wouldn't have had the same appeal.
Thanks and best wishes to all!

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Jared

Patreon takes one-time additional gifts I think.

Or sign up for $1 and tell Patreon to auto-stop after 10 months (if you really have to)

...just trying to keep the Christmas warm fuzzies going

November 12, 2015  | person_outline hx

Ok thanks alot Jared.
As suggested by the boss, as soon as I get the refund, I donate it on Patreon's Tim page.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Matt

@jared @matt @tim @discchorders :) What a difference 24h make!!!
First of all, thx to everybody who supported the idea, donated and/or gave a thumb up.
Special thx to Jared who made run with a fantastic idea until he couldn't run anymore b/c tim made clear he'd rather have us Patreon him - which is cool.
But it's really nice to see the community of Discchorders mobilise so fast and so effectively. Something to remember next time we have an idea / concern / project worth sharing with one another.

November 12, 2015  | person_outline klx

@klx 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 pleasure shared to see how we are a growing community. It is very cool to have a place to talk about our passion. Furthermore in a pleasant and courteous atmosphere 👏🏼

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Matt

To all donors to the ill-fated fund drive to set Tim up with an iPad Pro: Your refund has been processed, and for some mysterious reason will not show up in your account for the usual 2–7 "working days." Given that these transactions take place pretty much at the speed of light, it should only take 5 hours even if your account is with a bank on Pluto.
Let's put this whole sordid mess behind us and enjoy the holiday season! I plan on spending a good bit of it at a local Starbucks clumsily struggling to work with my new awkward and burdensome iPad while drinking cup after cup of coffee from those festive red cups that everyone's talking about!

November 12, 2015  | person_outline Jared

Ipad Pro looks ugly than ipad 1 gen.

November 14, 2015  | person_outline Sonic

I almost bought a Pro online on the first morning, when our local Apple store still had them in stock, but two things stopped me. First, the Pencil doesn't ship for a month. Second, I have a lot on my plate right now and would have a hard time not spending a day or two checking it out and falling behind. I decided to wait for the holidays so I can spend a lot of time goofing off, err, "researching" the new device.

I've had six iPads since the line was announced in 2010 and have written a lot of software for them, but have skipped the last three releases since they didn't bring anything new that I really wanted. The Pro, however, is a nice leap forward for the line and I think they hit all the right notes, more memory, larger display, great CPU upgrade, and so on.

However, what's driving my desire is the Pencil and the high precision touch sampling used for it. I'm a visual person and prefer to sketch rather than type. Not being a pro artist I'm never going to buy high end graphics tools, but this is perfect for me. I already have an investment in iOS apps for drawing and sketching and those developers are already releasing updates to support the Pro. So, a win all around for me.

Beside that, it looks like it will make a decent B camera when I do video, and of course, my main music apps should all work. Even if I have to wait a bit for updates, not a problem, I'm sure the important apps will be addressed soon. All in all it looks like a great upgrade. My only gripe is that the 32G model should be 64G and there should be a 256G model.

Reading what people have posted above, I think it is mistake to compare the Pro to the Surface. I don't think the Pro will be a laptop replacement, at least not for a number of years, if ever. The simple fact is that iOS is not a keyboard and focus system. The new tvOS has the beginnings of this since it is driven by a remote with a small touch pad, but the support for focus is rather rudimentary and meant for a custom TV UI and still has a LONG way to go in order to reach the point where it could be a good laptop. I just don't see it happening. I think that Apple has not merged iOS and OSX for a reason.

Also, I think the Pro is a much better deal than the Surface, especially if you already are in the Apple ecosystem. I like the work Apple has been doing with custom chips, custom ARM CPUs, power usage, and extensive hardware, software, and manufacturing integration. They are going to keep pushing this as it is their main source of massive profit. That's how they maintain their position at the top end of the market and charge premium prices. If you think it is worth the cost you pay it. If you don't you get something else.

I'm not at all convinced that Intel will ever be able to get anywhere with low power mobile chips and CPUs and it isn't clear to me that Microsoft can deal with abandoning the x86 for ARM. I expect Intel/Microsoft are going to have a hard time catching up to Android/Chrome, let alone Apple. I'm not anti-Intel/Microsoft (well maybe I still resent Intel destroying all competitors back in the day and keeping prices high) and I rode the Windows steady growth and improvements under BillG from 3.1 (pre 3.11 for those in the know) up to XP, but Balmer's goofy management ruined it for me and I switched to linux/Apple. Since then I feel like I'm in a much less chaotic place where everything works well and lasts longer, so it is a better deal for me. Good luck to them, but I think that ship has sailed and money spent there is not going to buy as much. So, the Surface has no appeal to me. I'd never tell anyone else not to buy one, I just would rather spend on the ecosystem I'm already in.

November 14, 2015  | person_outline Fran_K

So very tempting = I will try to wait for the 256GB model [my iPad Air 2 128GB is already near 50%, so it's best for me to wait & see]

November 14, 2015  | person_outline Zenzilla
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