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AudioCopy 2.0 Official Announcement

True to their word, Retroynms were quick to officially announce AudioCopy 2.0. This comes exactly one week after I reported that Apple will be killing Sonoma's AudopCopy/Paste in iOS 7.

I addition to answering immediate user fears - yes, AudioCopy 2.0 will feature a history for quick import/export - they go into great details about what this new platform brings to the table and how they're working with the limitations on copying data between apps in iOS 7.

To work within Apple's new sandboxing rules you will now need a dedicated AudioCopy 2.0 app, which will be available for free shortly after the release of iOS 7. This app can run in the background, and you never have to think about it. While it sits there, AudioCopy 2.0 enabled apps will now be sending and receiving through it. When you want to Paste, the background AudioCopy 2.0 app will tell the app what it has available. The AudioCopy 2.0 app can also be used as a browser to manage or delete your imported samples in the history library.

I spoke with Retronym's co-founders Dan and John-Paul Walton about the new system and features I know you guys use. They assure me that the new app will continue be able to accept multiple files in one operation. So you will be able to AudioCopy multiple discrete tracks from an app in one step! The new AudioCopy 2.0 is backwards compatible with AudioCopy 1.0, so abandoned apps should continue to work.

I further asked about compatibility, and how this will effect iPad 1 users on iOS 5 and others who simply won't to upgrade to iOS 7.

"The AudioCopy sdk will run on iOS 6. I suspect the AudioCopy app will as well.
We are going to try to support iOS 5 also, the current download is 6 and 7 only.
- Dan Walton, Co-Founder Retronyms

Full details are on the official AudioCopy 2.0 page. The Preview Release SDK is available for developers today.

Here's a simple diagram to show the different experiences users will have with the new AudioCopy methods. If you don't have the dedicated AudioCopy 2.0 app, the whole process falls-back to iOS (General) Pasteboard, so nothing breaks.

Reader Comments 18

Sounds good. I do hope that the app does NOT use any extra RAM to speak of, that should be prio nr 1. But I'm sure they're well aware of how sucky iOS RAM handling is so...

September 06, 2013  | person_outline ChrisG

I'm really hoping that ACP2 handles more than 7 files at a time, as working with my favourite two DAW's, Nanostudio and Meteor can be somewhat cumbersome without an external PC.

September 06, 2013  | person_outline tom_tm

Yes, we are aware of ram issues. The AudioCopy.app is going to be fairly minimal. AudioCopy2 handles limitless audio files, you can also delete them.

September 06, 2013  | person_outline Dan Walton

thank you Team Retronyms!

September 06, 2013  | person_outline a1

Well that was nice and easy to integrate into Echo Pad. Looking forward to seeing the accompanying app when it's released.

September 06, 2013  | person_outline HoldernessMedia

I like using Audiocopy very much and I'm glad to hear about this app and its features. Thanks Retronyms people!

September 06, 2013  | person_outline synthandson

Dan Walton: Awesome, thanks. :)

September 06, 2013  | person_outline ChrisG

Wunderbar! Thanks for that essential maintenance!

September 07, 2013  | person_outline SELf

If you can do this why can't you fix the audio export bug in the impc c'mon man.

September 07, 2013  | person_outline Kobamoto rin

So it's audioshare?

September 07, 2013  | person_outline Hogo

Awesome, & good to hear it is easily integrated :)

September 07, 2013  | person_outline Baddcr

Wouldn't it be nice if they just add a normalize feature?.

Anyway, looks great, thank you much to Retronyms guys!

September 07, 2013  | person_outline A.C.

Now that this audio copy issue is dealt with, perhaps now would be a good time to get TableTop and Audiobus together at last. Another thing that could really make a big difference to users is common patches and files between the iMPC standalone and the inside TableTop iMPC. It's kind of crazy to have to do everything twice. Same thing with iMini.

September 07, 2013  | person_outline ZenLizard

I was kind of pissed about this at first. Seems to me that they just basically bit Audioshare and in particular it's SDK. They added the idea of folders based on the name of the sending app and apparently it can all happen without actually needing to bring the app to the foreground. Nice additions, for sure, but to basically recreate the Audioshare SDK and offer it up for free felt... well... wrong. Seems like Jonatan should have had the right of first refusal. Audioshare could have been changed to a freemium app - Audiocopy/paste and perhaps itunes sharing for free and a 'pro' IAP to get the rest of its current functionality.

But then I read this blog post: http://blog.retronyms.com/2013/09/dan-catbearder.html and learned that they were a part of the original Sonoma AudioCopy development. Kind of a key part to the story. As it is, aping the AudioShare SDK is just about the only way to get something like this working in iOS7 and in that light, and given their roots with the project, I'm less annoyed by it.

That said, there is nothing stopping audioshare from aping the folder and background ideas (in return). Cough. Sounds like the AS SDK is just as easy for devs to implement. I'd definitely rather have all my stuff in one place and I'd rather that place be audioshare. Jonatan has, from my perspective, a better track record with quickly shipping bug fixes and communicating with users.

September 07, 2013  | person_outline Will

"Now that this audio copy issue is dealt with, perhaps now would be a good time to get TableTop and Audiobus together at last. Another thing that could really make a big difference to users is common patches and files between the iMPC standalone and the inside TableTop iMPC. It's kind of crazy to have to do everything twice. Same thing with iMini."

(all of) ^ This.

September 08, 2013  | person_outline Em


Even if they were not linked at all to sonoma, etcetera...I think these are too general features. A copy/paste board with file management is an obvious need in iOS music ecosystem. To offer a payed app and then someone other offering pretty much the same for free is also a common risk here. You may feel sorry for the guy, I understand that. Keeping you app better is pretty much the solution. In fact, will still keep using Audioshare for advanced editing and file sharing options when needed, and there's still a lot to improve in both directions I think.

September 08, 2013  | person_outline A.C.

fair and good points @A.C.

September 09, 2013  | person_outline Will

This definitely seems like the best solution to a bad situation. Just to confirm: any app which today uses AudioCopy/Paste will still be able to use the general pasteboard under iOS7 but in order to use this new version of AudioCopy/Paste, all of my music apps will need to be updated by the developers? I have some apps I use a lot which haven't been updated in a while (iSequence) and I'm worried about them being left behind. If the general pasteboard still works, maybe that's not a huge issue... or maybe I should go bug BeepStreet about it ;-)

September 09, 2013  | person_outline victor

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